Tuesday, May 11, 2010

Swedish Cartoonist Lars Vilks Attacked by Muslims


May 11, 2010 at the University of Uppsala
From Swedish Wire:
Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks, who sparked controversy by drawing Prophet Mohammed with the body of a dog, was on Tuesday attacked while giving a lecture at a university.
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52 comments:

  1. No surprise, but that video has already managed to be flagged on YouTube ... Mucking Fuslims!

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  2. Do I thumb it up or down?  I mean I don't liek what the video is portraying but I think it's important for others to see...

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  3. im atheist everything, but come on now, we're all adults , why would you wanna get out of ur way just to piss some ppl off. im sorry but he kinda deserves it.

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  4. I thought only "extremists" did this sort of stuff. All the sympathizers need to see this. These are rather normal people who allow their rationality to be replaced by religious fervor. It's ridiculous.

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  5. King Asa for PresidentMay 11, 2010 at 6:56 PM

    Quatchi - "<span>im atheist everything, but come on now, we're all adults , </span><span>why would you wanna get out of ur way just to piss some ppl off. im sorry but he kinda deserves it.</span><span>"</span>

    Clearly we're not all adults.  The man was giving a lecture at a secular university, not walking into a mosque with muhammed's face on a shirt.  Explain how he was going out of his way to piss people off?  Should we allow people with contraversial ideas to be beaten and killed because they, "deserve it?"  And how does one even deserve it?  I'm heavily offended by the Koran but I don't take to the streets frothing at the mouth ready to attack and possibly kill anyone who espouses it. To roll your eyes and blame the victim is a passive approval of aggressive, irrational violence.

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  6. Well christians are dangerous with their beliefs, moderate-fanatical to fanatical muslims I find to be physically dangerous to all none muslims

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  7. The video he was showing when shit hit the fan is bad enough to deserve a beating. Seriously, might be the silliest thing I've ever watched. :)

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  8. Oh, and the video in question is:
    http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/33434/98ff6c9b/allah_ho_gaybar.html

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  9. see you don't just attack particular prophets or religions but GOD HIMSELF!

    therefore, you DIE

    f*ck you very much!

    Atheists!!!

    **************************

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Touched_by_His_Noodly_Appendage.jpg

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    see, you degenerates have last names like first names...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster


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    how about I believe in WHATEVER I want - even in the FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER! - and you have nothing to say!
    ************************************************************

    let me show you the end results of this particular *ONE-DIMENSIONAL SCIENTIFIC MODE*
    of thinking that is called *CRITICAL THINKING*, which is completely divorced from
    any human objectives...

    this style has been perfected by dawkins, pz, randi and the other *NEW ATHEISTS*
    **
    THE BOOBQUAKE - 911!
    ***
    hey, atheists don't even BELIEVE IN BOOBIES!!!
    they thought BOOBIES had no effect... WRONG!

    see, I just want to make it clear to the rest of you:
    jen is unable to see that there is a CONFLICT BETWEEN EROS & SCIENCE....

    http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/in-name-of-science-i-offer-my-boobs.html

    http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/quick-clarification-about-boobquake.html

    see how we take a term and convert it into its AUTHENTIC POLITICAL DIMENSION - THAT
    OF LIBERATION - not just merely harmless expression...

    Visit for the BOOBQUAKE:

    http://dissidentphilosophy.lifediscussion.net/philosophy-f1/the-boobquake-911-t1310.htm

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  10. Sweden_one_of_the_most_secular_countriesMay 11, 2010 at 7:20 PM

    <span>Vilks lecture was about his own art projects, art and freedom of speech. He was attacked before he even began the lecture. Now thats muslim tolerance for ya.</span>

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  11. Sweden_one_of_the_most_secular_countriesMay 11, 2010 at 7:42 PM

    Well belive in whatever you want, just don't count on that people will stand idle by when you attack someone in the name of your "spagetthi monster". Peace.

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  12. So ashamed that I was once a muslim :(

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  13. Are you mental? Do you think we should live in a world where we can't express our opinions without being beaten? Stand back and look at the big picture before you say that the man deserves it.

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  14. Allah u Akbar =I can't think for my self :-E .

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  15. Muslims should just be banned from the E.U.

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  16. You know, I was thinking just that same thing while watching the video, but I have my doubts about the viability of that option, given its implications.

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  17. Nobody was forced to attend that lecture! What do you mean "piss some ppl off"???<span>
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  18. Are you fucking serious? And then the jews? And then christians? And then whoever doesn't share your mindset? Don't be a child.

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  19. While I agree that all the instigators were out of line, let's not fall into the generalization trap. Not all belief is created equal - we should weigh individual rights against each other. In this case, as a society (moderate muslims included) we should come together to say that freedom of speech is more important than blasphemy.

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  20. "<span>Are you fucking serious? And then the jews? And then christians? And then whoever doesn't share your mindset?"</span>

    Given the context of the video, I think he's refering to Muslims specifically because of their violent intolerance - not because "they don't share his mindset". It's also not uncommon for Muslim extremists to advocate the takeover of european states and placing them under Sharia (Islamic) law.  While I'm not agreeing with Krumm, I think maybe you would see things differently if Christians were moving to the middle east, causing trouble, suppressing free speech, killing people who "insult" Christianity, talking about taking over and placing everyone under Christian law, and banning other religions.

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  21. What baffles me is how docile the police are. In America we would have quickly subdued the attacker physically and detained them. 

    My other observation is all the other non-Muslims, they simply sit there and calmly watch the events unfold. Personally, if I saw something like this occur I would be one of the first to stand up and try and stop these aggressors. 

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  22. <span>Umh no. This is adults who lack self-control and they should police their own emotions and actions. Even if you think someone is wrong you still should be able to relax about it and simpy think: "he has the right to be wrong" and leave it at that.
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  23. The police used their heads..

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  24. Watch and read mohammed T-shirt art from Sweden at,

    http://www.mohammedt-shirt.com

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  25. Sweden_one_of_the_most_secular_countriesMay 12, 2010 at 6:08 AM

    What we need is a more secular society.

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  26. That blonde long-haired officer who takes down the guy at the end has a future in pro-wrestling.

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  27. muslims are by far the most unintelligent group of sheep in history. Moderates are just too chicken-sh#t to think for themselves. Religion sucks!

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  28. They leave dumps and hell holes in Arabia to go and live the most beautiful of lives in Sweden... and they do this; what kind of ignorance is that!

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  29. <span>All radical and extremist muslims should be kicked out of the E.U. We shouldn't have to tolerate this crap! Let them preach hate in their own intellectually-bankrupt s**t-holes!</span>

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  30. Which is exactly what Christian have done through history when they had more power.

    I don't think either that whole groups should not be let in. But if there would be a way to read people's minds to determine if they really do advocate using the freedom of certain democratic countries to indeed take over of said countries and destroy the very freedom that makes it easier for them to do this... Then yeah, I think it would be good to shut them out.

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  31. "Halal snackbar! Halal snackbar! Kebab is great!"

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  32. All Muslims are "extremists". Islam, at its heart, is a religion of hatred.

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  33. R€LIGION $TINKS OF MONE¥May 12, 2010 at 11:04 AM

    Typical bully behaviour by sexually dysfunctional men who can´t get laid.

    They don´t appreciate the fact that they are lucky enough to live in one of the most egalitarian countries in the world, where they are fed, housed and get free education.

    Expell these spoilt rotten brats back to the wherever they came from. Their ungrateful conduct is an insult to secular Scandinavia.
    There are many out there like the tens of thousands Gay Iraqi men and women who face death and torture would move to Sweden in a heartbeat.

    It´s these sort of people that make their lives hell.

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  34. The problem is double standards. Most, if not all, of the people drawing these cartoons and sparking this contraversy are Christians who are explicitly anti-Muslim and usually racist. They are delibrately trying to provoke and anger Muslims.

    These cartoons are equivalent to racist caricatures of Obama at rallies or Phelps and his "God hates fags" signs. Nobody is holding these people up as paragons of free speech. They certainly don't publish this crap in major American newspapers as a "tribute to free speech".

    Violence certainly isn't an appropriate response, but it's understandable. This is equivalent to Jewish members of the audience getting angry with a neo-Nazi Holocaust denier or a Black members getting angry at KKK spokesmen.

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  35. This is because shouting and anger doesn't mean people should be beaten and tasered.

    The police in the USA are way out of hand. And dispshit Americans seem to revel in the violence. For example, making fun of the "Don't tase me bro!" college kid that was brutally attacked by campus police. Or cheering as the police beat and tasered a kid who ran out on the field during a baseball game. American prisons are hellholes where most prisoners are routinely raped and brutalized. Such things are completley unknown in Swedish prisons.

    I certainly don't want police in Europe to act in any way like the deranged thugs Americans call "police". Sweden has zero crime compared to the US, so they must be doing something right.

    I say this as a former American law enforcement officer.

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  36. In America there is no problem.  The viciously and funny satire, "How Fatima Started Islam: Mohammad's Daughter Tells It All" is openly and publically sold by Amazon.com with no court contests, problems, or protests.  This may change but it is currently allowed.  The book depicts Mohammad as a urine-soaked, drunken fool too stupid to run his business 'Mohammad's Saloon & Brothel' well.  His daughter Fatima who is desperate to escape the brothel and servicing tricks fabricates the new religion.  As long as she can keep the old fool in booze and young children and camels to molest he will bother nobody.

    This book could not be sold in Britain but there is currently no trouble in the United States

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  37. So far right wingers with violent tendencies(perhaps Krumm himself) should be banned from the EU as well?

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  38. If this is true then my guess is that it has to do with few or nobody noticing it.

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  39. Obviously it's a problem in the USA too, why else would Comedy Central censor South Park?

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  40. Oh, for heaven's sake.
    First of all, no-one deserves to be beaten up for causing offense.
    Second, I have little sympathy for people who knowingly seek out the opportunity to be offended. Seriously, they didn't have to go to the lecture, and it's preposterous to get offended by something someone else does in private.

    What's next: people getting offended by something you think? How very 1984.

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  41. Seeing your previous comments, endorsing the beatings (with a smile, no less), it's clear that it is you who is the child.

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  42. <span>Except, of course, that Islam is a religion which one can choose to believe in or not whereas race and sexual orientation are not a matter of choice. </span>

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  43. <span>To elaborate on my original comment...  
     
    Once upon a time in a young United States (1798 to be exact), President John Adams signed four bills collectively called The Alien and Sedition Acts. One of them was specifically called the Alien Friends Act, which expired two years after its passing into law, and stated that the President had the power to deport any resident alien considered a threat to the safety of the United States. Interestingly, Adams never deported anyone, although many aliens vonlutarily left the United States because the four laws may have created a paranoid atmosphere which threatened the livelihood of resident aliens.  
     
    The Act was never reinstated because of its controversially unconstitutional nature, and the case would still be the same today.  Were the EU to start deporting any Muslim that threatened the safety of the European people, how long would it be before all Muslims were kicked out like Jews if the term "threat" were left vague and open-ended in its definition?  
     
    Regardless, deportation is an extreme solution for extreme cases. A number of fundamentalist Muslims protesting violently is not extreme, but it is something that will get them in jail.</span>

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  44. This is insulting to Islam!  It paints its followers as a bunch of small-minded, thin-skinned, cretins who demand that their prophet not be above mortal insult.  Instead, he's dragged down to their level and declared a hemophiliac, mortally wounded by the paper-cut of a cartoon caricature.

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  45. In America there is no problem.  The viciously and funny satire, "How Fatima Started Islam: Mohammad's Daughter Tells It All" is openly and publically sold by Amazon.com.  The book depicts Mohammad as a urine-soaked drunk who is too stupid to run his business 'Mohammad's Saloon & Brothel' well.  His daughter Fatima who is desperate to escape

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  46. Well I really disagree that all Muslims are "extremists", I live in a Muslim country yes most of the time I am confronted with extremists but you do actually get people that are very civilized and that actually listen to the other side of the story. The whole all Arabs are Muslim extremist terrorist is not true. This whole Bin Laden crap should not be an example of how you think about people from the same race/religion. That stereotyping alone will lead to normal people (none extremists) to actually act in very uncivilized ways.

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  47. this is why we can't have nice things

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  48. And let us not forget that muslims account for almost 24% of the world population. Reductionist views of complicated issues don't help anyone and encourage more ignorance. The media likes to sell islam as a religion of hatred because it keeps scared eyes glued to tv sets and reactionary blogs. It is a pitty that a lot of decent critique of ASPECTS of a religion are burried beneath willful ignorance when it come to understanding islam, which is just as complex as any other religion. Not all christians kill abortion doctors, not all muslims scream for an end to western civilization, and not all evolutionary scientists are smug and self-satisfied like Dawkins. Ha-cha! Haw.

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  49. More videos here:
    http://politisktinkorrekt.info/2010/05/13/video-overfallet-pa-lars-vilks-hela-efterspelet-11-min/#more-41075

    Haven't watched them myself..

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  50. o for crying out loud. let me draw a picture of "jesus" with the body of a dog and lets see what christians will do.. im sorry but he deserved to get beaten

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  51. You do that, draw Jesus with the body of a dog. Go right ahead.
    Or are you afraid you'll be deserving of a beating for that?
    Well, let me save you the trouble. I think you deserve to get beaten for posting your reply.

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