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The sound, the sound! Not your fault, of course; I just wish it were clearer... and I don't have the patience, I'm afraid.
And I am not a native English speaker so it is very difficult to me to even hear what they say. :( There must be someone who have the audio from the mikes...
O Christine, I nearly didn't bother after your comment but I'm so glad I did. The sound was not perfect but still better than some, and the discussion was well worth the investment of an hour. So please come back Christine and give it another go!