The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, he was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intollerance, off-balance, anger and racism. His previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-commited limited approval. Wating for critical mass before they charge over the cliff. So here he is again, 6:46 minute diatribe w/o the political correct insertion of Christian sins. And all of it absolutely dead on.
<span><span>The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, Condell was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intolerance, off-balance, anger and racism. </span></span><span> <span>His previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-committed limited approval. </span> <span>Waiting for critical mass before they charge over the cliff. </span> <span>So here he is again, a 6:46-minute diatribe w/o the political correct insertion of Christian sins. </span> <span>And all of it absolutely dead on.</span></span>
<span><span><span>The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, Condell was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intolerance, off-balance, anger and racism. </span></span><span> <span>His previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-committed limited approval. </span> <span>Waiting for critical mass before they charge over the cliff. </span> <span>So here he is again, a 6:46-minute diatribe w/o the politically correct insertion of Christian sins. </span> <span>And all of it absolutely dead on.</span></span></span>
<img></img> <span><span>john</span><span></span><img></img></span> <span><span><span><span>The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, Condell was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intolerance, off-balance, anger and racism. </span></span><span> <span>His previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-committed limited approval. </span> <span>Waiting for critical mass before they charge over the cliff. </span> <span>So here he is again, a 6:46-minute Islamic diatribe w/o the politically correct insertion of Christian sins. </span> <span>And all of it absolutely dead on.</span></span></span></span>
<img></img> <span><span>john</span><span></span><img></img></span> <span><span><span><span>The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, Condell was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intolerance, off-balance, anger and racism. </span></span><span> <span>His previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-committed limited approval. </span> <span>Waiting for critical mass before they charge over the cliff. </span> <span>So here he is again, a 6:46-minute diatribe w/o the politically correct insertion of Christian sins. </span> <span>And all of it absolutely dead on.</span></span></span></span>
Although I admire Condell's hard hitting attacks on religion and Islam, I stopped linking to his videos because of what seems like some basic philosophical issues I have with him. This video looks very clean, however and I appreciate the warning about the Saudis getting on the UN women's agency. Note that, in the "News & Blogs" column to the right, there's a link to an article about this--a worthwhile read.
It's not hard to get speech labeled as racist. Several years ago, a person on a local city commission referred to something Condell said as racist. I was upset so I sent off an email to the commission complaining that Islam is a religion and not a race. I got back an email which started with this unfuckingbelievable way of applying a concept:
"<span>I understand that race is not religion, but I think I made my point clearly enough and believe the term "racism" is being used more and more the way I did. As to how that has happened, it is intuitive. It feels like racism and ones natural response (at least mine, and others I've heard use the word similarly) is that the term applies. "</span>
My admiration for the conviction, commitment & follow-thru it took to take the action you did. If more of us were like you, perhaps the morons in our society wouldn't feel so secure in displaying their stupidity. As for the dumb response you got, remember; We're not a rational species, but a rationalizing one.
<span>Never was much concerned about anyone's position on Condell. What pissed me off was the way people seem to blow with the strongest wind. In the '60s we called that "Doing Your Own Thing In Unison'"</span> <span>My admiration for the conviction, commitment & follow-thru it took to take the action you did. If more of us were like you, perhaps the morons in our society wouldn't feel so secure in displaying their stupidity. As for the dumb response you got, remember; We're not a rational species, but a rationalizing one.</span>
I think we can be rational, but what's lacking is the moral view that we should be rational. Perhaps the worst crime of religion is that it needs and perpetuates a culture of unreason. Many of the religious drivelmeisters are very effective in their attacks (often implicit) on reason.
So true. It's why I'm so enthusiastic that Sam Harris has taken the long-needed plunge to argue for a reason-based moral code. I say screw the hair-splitting is-aught deniers.
<span>So true. It's why I'm so enthusiastic that Sam Harris has taken the long-needed plunge to argue for a reason-based moral code. I say screw the highbrow hair-splitting is-aught deniers or the religious creeps who claim it's god's perogative.</span>
<span><span>So true. It's why I'm so enthusiastic that Sam Harris has taken the long-needed plunge to argue for a reason-based moral code. I say screw the highbrow hair-splitting is-aught deniers or the religious creeps who claim it's their god's perogative.</span></span>
I don't have the slightest issue with people slamming islam and faith in general, repeatedly, but Pat Condell's videos stopped being interestesting about 20 videos ago. SSDD.
What I do object to on a personal level is his imo poor argument for supporting nationalist, science rejecting, political parties. To "send a message"? Please...
Without looking at the bigger picture of why Islam is becoming a problem... as regards the underlying politics propagated by all Abrahamic religions then an attack is just childish.
Well, I for one like hearing what Pat has to say, its everyone's choice to do so or not. Here seems to be another example as to what the UN is up to: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2010/11/gay-human-rights-groups-governments-remove-sexual-orientation-from-un-resolution-condemning-executions.htm
The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, he was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intollerance, off-balance, anger and racism.
ReplyDeleteHis previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-commited limited approval.
Wating for critical mass before they charge over the cliff.
So here he is again, 6:46 minute diatribe w/o the political correct insertion of Christian sins.
And all of it absolutely dead on.
<span><span>The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, Condell was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intolerance, off-balance, anger and racism. </span></span><span>
ReplyDelete<span>His previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-committed limited approval. </span>
<span>Waiting for critical mass before they charge over the cliff. </span>
<span>So here he is again, a 6:46-minute diatribe w/o the political correct insertion of Christian sins. </span>
<span>And all of it absolutely dead on.</span></span>
<span><span><span>The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, Condell was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intolerance, off-balance, anger and racism. </span></span><span>
ReplyDelete<span>His previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-committed limited approval. </span>
<span>Waiting for critical mass before they charge over the cliff. </span>
<span>So here he is again, a 6:46-minute diatribe w/o the politically correct insertion of Christian sins. </span>
<span>And all of it absolutely dead on.</span></span></span>
<img></img> <span><span>john</span><span></span><img></img></span>
ReplyDelete<span><span><span><span>The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, Condell was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intolerance, off-balance, anger and racism. </span></span><span>
<span>His previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-committed limited approval. </span>
<span>Waiting for critical mass before they charge over the cliff. </span>
<span>So here he is again, a 6:46-minute Islamic diatribe w/o the politically correct insertion of Christian sins. </span>
<span>And all of it absolutely dead on.</span></span></span></span>
<img></img> <span><span>john</span><span></span><img></img></span>
ReplyDelete<span><span><span><span>The reaction to Candell's posts have been an excellent refutation of Dawkin's assertion that atheists can't be herded like cats. Initially, Condell was unanimously the best thing since sliced bread. Then, a while back, the herd troughed out on some perceived bigotry, intolerance, off-balance, anger and racism. </span></span><span>
<span>His previous post saw a few sheeple here test the waters with a non-committed limited approval. </span>
<span>Waiting for critical mass before they charge over the cliff. </span>
<span>So here he is again, a 6:46-minute diatribe w/o the politically correct insertion of Christian sins. </span>
<span>And all of it absolutely dead on.</span></span></span></span>
limited approval? 100% approval from me.
ReplyDelete<span> sheeple</span>? What? Dolt.
ReplyDeleteOoops, sorry, Donny,forgot about you. Should've used "lemming" instead. Brain mass to consider.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I admire Condell's hard hitting attacks on religion and Islam, I stopped linking to his videos because of what seems like some basic philosophical issues I have with him. This video looks very clean, however and I appreciate the warning about the Saudis getting on the UN women's agency. Note that, in the "News & Blogs" column to the right, there's a link to an article about this--a worthwhile read.
ReplyDeleteIt's not hard to get speech labeled as racist. Several years ago, a person on a local city commission referred to something Condell said as racist. I was upset so I sent off an email to the commission complaining that Islam is a religion and not a race. I got back an email which started with this unfuckingbelievable way of applying a concept:
"<span>I understand that race is not religion, but I think I
made my point clearly enough and believe the term
"racism" is being used more and more the way I did. As
to how that has happened, it is intuitive. It feels
like racism and ones natural response (at least mine,
and others I've heard use the word similarly) is that
the term applies. "</span>
My admiration for the conviction, commitment & follow-thru it took to take the action you did. If more of us were like you, perhaps the morons in our society wouldn't feel so secure in displaying their stupidity.
ReplyDeleteAs for the dumb response you got, remember; We're not a rational species, but a rationalizing one.
<span>Never was much concerned about anyone's position on Condell. What pissed me off was the way people seem to blow with the strongest wind. In the '60s we called that "Doing Your Own Thing In Unison'"</span>
ReplyDelete<span>My admiration for the conviction, commitment & follow-thru it took to take the action you did. If more of us were like you, perhaps the morons in our society wouldn't feel so secure in displaying their stupidity.
As for the dumb response you got, remember; We're not a rational species, but a rationalizing one.</span>
I think we can be rational, but what's lacking is the moral view that we should be rational. Perhaps the worst crime of religion is that it needs and perpetuates a culture of unreason. Many of the religious drivelmeisters are very effective in their attacks (often implicit) on reason.
ReplyDeleteSo true. It's why I'm so enthusiastic that Sam Harris has taken the long-needed plunge to argue for a reason-based moral code. I say screw the hair-splitting is-aught deniers.
ReplyDelete<span>So true. It's why I'm so enthusiastic that Sam Harris has taken the long-needed plunge to argue for a reason-based moral code. I say screw the highbrow hair-splitting is-aught deniers or the religious creeps who claim it's god's perogative.</span>
ReplyDelete<span><span>So true. It's why I'm so enthusiastic that Sam Harris has taken the long-needed plunge to argue for a reason-based moral code. I say screw the highbrow hair-splitting is-aught deniers or the religious creeps who claim it's their god's perogative.</span></span>
ReplyDeletehttp://richarddawkins.net/videos/550270-debate-does-the-universe-have-a-purpose
ReplyDeleteI don't have the slightest issue with people slamming islam and faith in general, repeatedly, but Pat Condell's videos stopped being interestesting about 20 videos ago. SSDD.
ReplyDeleteWhat I do object to on a personal level is his imo poor argument for supporting nationalist, science rejecting, political parties. To "send a message"? Please...
Without looking at the bigger picture of why Islam is becoming a problem... as regards the underlying politics propagated by all Abrahamic religions then an attack is just childish.
ReplyDeleteWell, I for one like hearing what Pat has to say, its everyone's choice to do so or not. Here seems to be another example as to what the UN is up to:
ReplyDeletehttp://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2010/11/gay-human-rights-groups-governments-remove-sexual-orientation-from-un-resolution-condemning-executions.htm
Good thing you kept that mail Mel.
ReplyDeleteIt is shocking that a city council person and someone with influence has such poor judgement.