Saturday, October 23, 2010

Rachel Maddow - Anti-Abortion Extremists Soliciting Murder


October 20, 2010 on MSNBC

15 comments:

  1. Pro-life = kill... the irony is fucking sad

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  2. Hello,

    Is there maybe a source of that quote of Hitler?

    Thanks a lot!

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  3. These people are not pro-life, they are pro-death!

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  4. If there is somebody on this blog, that knows something about USA criminal law, I would have a question for you.

    Don't U.S.A have laws against death threats?

    If somebody put that kind of poster up here in Finland, the threatened person could walk to police and demand them to investigate, catch and prosecute the people behind the poster. 

    There is clear law for this kind of case in our legislature. Althought this law is not very much used. Police investigates such crime only, if somebody ask for it. Mostly it is so, because the amount of careless threats would swamp any legal system. Still it is criminal to threaten anyone with any kind of violence and the law is very broad on the definition of threatening and violence.

    Finnish criminal law - chapter 25 - section 7 - Menace (578/1995):
    Unofficial ministry or justice translation
    A person who raises a weapon at another <span>or otherwise threatens another with an offence under such circumstances that the person so threatened has justified reason to believe that his or her personal safety or property or that of someone else is in serious</span> danger shall be sentenced, unless a more severe penalty for the act is provided elsewhere in the law, for menace <span>to a fine or to imprisonment for at most two years</span>.

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  5. If there is somebody on this blog, that knows something about USA criminal law, I would have a question for you.

    Don't U.S.A have laws against death threats?

    If somebody put that kind of poster up here in Finland, the threatened person could walk to police and demand them to investigate, catch and prosecute the people behind the poster. 

    There is clear law for this kind of case in our legislature. Althought this law is not very much used. Police investigates such crime only, if somebody ask for it. Mostly it is so, because the amount of careless threats would swamp any legal system. Still it is criminal to threaten anyone with any kind of violence and the law is very broad on the definition of threatening and violence.

    Finnish criminal law - chapter 25 - section 7 - Menace (578/1995):
    Unofficial ministry or justice translation
    A person who raises a weapon at another <span>or otherwise threatens another with an offence under such circumstances that the person so threatened has justified reason to believe that his or her personal safety or property or that of someone else is in serious</span> danger shall be sentenced, unless a more severe penalty for the act is provided elsewhere in the law, for menace <span>to a fine or to imprisonment for at most two years</span>.

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  6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvDsrYjhhQ8

    Marilyn Manson's song "Get Your Gunn". 

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  7. <img></img> <span><span>Variaatio</span><span></span><img></img></span>
    "Don't U.S.A have laws against death threats? 
     
    NO we do not. It is considered free speech.

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  8. Aren't there exceptions to free speech, the prototypical example being screaming "fire!" in a crowded theatre? Shouldn't serious death threats be considered in such a light?

    (I am also not from the USofA)

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  9. Explicit death threats are not protected under freedom of speech in the US.  ElGuapo has no idea what he's talking about.

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  10. Here's a good blog post about it:

    http://www.atlargely.com/atlargely/2009/08/free-speech-protection-does-not-cover-death-threats.html

    If somebody sayd, "You deserve it die."  They're generally okay, but if they say, "You deserve to die.  Watch your back!" or if they say, "you deserve to die Joe Johnson, who lives at 123 Bleaker Street and get's home from work about 6:30."  They're super f'd.

    The issue is enforcment.  I mean really, the number of death threats made against people must be outragious (Just imagine how many Richard Dawkins alone must get?"  It's certainly illegal, just very hard to prosecute.

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  11. They don't know who put the posters up.  If they did, there'd be definite legal action.

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  12. R€LIGION Stinks of moneyOctober 25, 2010 at 1:55 PM

    Oh so I guess Ahmed the dead terrorist (I keeeel you) won´t be making a court appearance anytime soon. Oh sugar crumbs! O:-)

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  13. <span>andrew,</span>
    <span>"They don't know who put the posters up.  If they did, there'd be definite legal action."</span>
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    <span> That is not true. What is illegal about the poster under the constitution?</span>

     If somebody sayd, "You deserve it die."  They're generally okay, but if they say, "You deserve to die.  Watch your back!" or if they say, "you deserve to die Joe Johnson, who lives at 123 Bleaker Street and get's home from work about 6:30."  They're super f'd.


    I disagree. Those are not death threats. A death threat would be "I am going to kill you."

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  14. I'm not arguing what I think SHOULD be or SHOULDN'T be considered a death threat.  I'm arguing what legal precedent has defined as a death threat.

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  15. He has plenty of speeches where he mentions his christian beliefs, including mein kampf.

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