What a arrogant and ignorant rabbi. Most scientists are atheists (or at least non-religious if you don't like the term atheist). And science has and will continue to contribute more to humanity than any religion ever will or can.
And the religious are untrained dogs: They continue to shit all over the house that the secular ideas of the Enlightement built and don't even think to clean it up.
I just find it funny that the political philosophers that Beck promotes--Rand, Milton Friedman, F.A. Hayek--were either atheists or agnostics. Rand being the atheist and the other two being agnostics.
Religions are like the music industry. Their business model is obsolete and they don't get it. Religion loses more and more significance because we no longer need a stone age social system in the space age.
Weren't Jews thought to be parasites in Europe about 100 years ago? Weren't they eventually considered so parasitic that some countries (Germany esp.) though it was better to just try to kill them off? I would assume a Rabbi should know better then to marginalize minorites, but maybe they've forgotten about the holocaust.
'not religious' is what atheist means whether someone likes the term or not. Please don't give ignorant biggots even a single inch -they'll take your arm.
Religion didn't contribute jack shit either. Anything connected to any religion that's any good is secular and in most cases would have probably been even better had it not been tied to a religion. Hitch's book theme 'Religion Poisions Everything' was right -though he was too propagandist compared to Harris or Dawkins, etc.. Sistene Chapel's pretty good no? Well the building's intended for suckers of a certain faith and architecture on it's own is not. And if Mike had been allow to paint whatever the ef he wanted to it would be a shining symbol for the world.
Like most good lies, this Rabbi's comment was kind of true. The true part is that all of us are in a sense parasites leeching off of those who lived before us and built civilization. And like any popular religion, this ass likes to think his religion (or any Abrahamic religion probably 'counts' to this Jewish putz) was responsible for all civilization. Then he pretends, like so many of 'faith' do, that atheists 'don't beleive in anything' therefore they 'don't do anything' and 'Bingo' he concludes they're all leeches. It's important not only to call these f**kers on their lies, but ALSO to really understand where they get these demented ideas from. They're not just pulled out of the air at random.
Also this point about how we're all in a sense leeches directly cuts into rabid Rand-ish Libertarians who think they made themselves all on their own and deserve billions of dollars for all the hard work they have other people do, but own majority shares in the corporation that these people slave at. Then like this Rabbi's idiot comment here, the Libertarian will call anyone else a Commie thief who wants us all in bread lines and hippie communes.
The thought of Jews as parasites in Europe 100 years ago is due to the prohibition on owning land from centuries prior, which forced the group into professions perceived as not productive. (such as banking, law, and medicine that became stereotypically Jewish)
Even more ironic is the fact that in Israel, today, the more insanely religious sects of Judaism are funded almost completely by the (officially) secular state. The state built and founded by atheists and non-religious that were regarded as anti-Jewish for doing so.
I'm sorry, but coming from someone whose entire income is based on making up scripturally-compatible lies and taking donations from those that listen to him, I can't really take the accusation of "parasite" seriously.
Clerics of any sort are parasites on the society that bears them.
Splitting hairs, and I think you're still technically wrong. It's extremely rare that someone can say "I believe in God" and have that 'god concept' not come from a religion -even if these people deny that they are any religion, they still have the main thread of some Theology. Otherwise why don't they say "I believe in lots of Gods?" rather than "God" singular? Because they get their idea from an upbringing and heritage of Abrahamic mono-theism. They kicked most of the dogma away (any often less than they might claim if you press the issue), but not the vague, meaningless main/key dogma that there is this one true God that's... whatever they imagine it to be. Personal Imagination Theolog still is a Theology ( -just the most shallow, self-centered kind. Atheist means No Theology and that's all.
It reminds me of how often Dawkins uses the term 'unparsimonious' on talk show interviews. I want to shout 'Dude, not only does no one but you ever use that word, but the explanation it will take once you say it makes the usage ironically very unparsimonious itself!'
If you want to get through to the most people, speak in a way they can understand. And that does not mean talking to people like they're two years old and dumbing yourself down. It just means trying to be reasonably understood with clear language. You get no points for using wildly esoteric words (like 'esoteric'). You just sound like a thesaurus abusing out-of-touch dick and ruin your otherwise good points.
'the quality of life goes up when faith is part of a life and that becomes it's best advert'
If you asked for evidence to support that statement he probably would not understand what you were talking about. Hey, it's religion We get to make shit up if it makes us feel special.
He has a facebook page...I would invite everyone to join and spread some intellectual honesty on his page for the rest of his "fans" to see! I am right now!
The churches jumped onboard the charity bandwagon to do nothing but enhance their belief systems public image, mind you charity is also a good way to get a captive audience to listen to the superstitious nonsense that seems such a part of church run charities. They are in it first and foremost to gather up new believers. If they actually assist someone with more than the nothing that is prayer, then that's just good luck.
Woah woah. I disagree with a LOT of what Glenn Beck says, but that doesn't mean he should be taken off the air. I have to tolerate jack-asses like him for the sake of my own freedom of speech.
No need for your 'woah woah'. It's not an infringment of the 1st ammendment to want or try to get this ass thrown off the air. If enough people protest his demented show the network could choose to remove him. Though that won't happen. It's all about money and that whore rakes it in right now.
Fat Rush had a TV show many years back and it got cancelled so he sticks with radio. Hopefully Beck will get stuck back in that same place. And then we can hope radio totally dies too.
Beck is a lot more careful than Rush was. The difference is that Rush actually believes what he says, so wasn't quite as careful with his words, wasn't always scrutinizing what he said. It's always Beck's guests that say the vile things, using them as a buffer.
Beck on the other hand is in a prison of his own making. His aim is to make money, so he is more aware of the things he says, always scrutinizing the things he says so he's never over the top. He can do that because he doesn't really believe everything he touts; he says what he says to keep the stupid masses coming back, not to seriously change anyone's mind. That's one reason for his embrace of religion. He uses that, as well as patriotism, as one of his many shields against criticism.
I wonder if it eats him up inside. I mean do you think he's lying because he thinks he needs to lie for some greater cause, or is it all money? I mean maybe he thinks the masses need to be manipulated for their own good (not something I agree with). I guess part of me fantasizes about Beck realizing the error of his ways and changing his tune, because if he did, what a powerful blow for good that could be.
MSM is business and Beck is there to cause controversy, which creates more money for Fox.
With a deadpan, Beck insists that he is not political: “I could give a flying crap about the political process.” Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. “We’re an entertainment company,” Beck says. Beck has previously described himself as “a rodeo clown” and conceded, “If you take what I say as gospel, you’re an idiot.” http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/08/beck-on-politics/
Oh great so Beck basically makes the same excuse as Jon Stewart. What's the Mark Twain quote? "I sometimes wonder whether we're ruled by smart men who are putting us on or idiots who really mean it?"
If people stopped watching him he would be taken off the air by the nature of supply and demand. You shouldn't force him off... but the fact that he exists is a bad sign.
Most people don't know this but Beck used to be a stand up comedian... he went on a tour a couple of years ago just before his tv show and all this stuff really took off. I think he's basically an ultra Andy-Kaufman-esque comedian: he's telling jokes that only he's laughing at. He just acts out a role and spews out bullshit and laughs all the way to the bank at the people who take him seriously.
True. But he does takes a very soft stance towards religion. I get the feeling he's a 'cultural' religious follower. But to be honest its people like that who allow this idiot to proclaim they are endorsed by millions of followers.
What a arrogant and ignorant rabbi. Most scientists are atheists (or at least non-religious if you don't like the term atheist). And science has and will continue to contribute more to humanity than any religion ever will or can.
ReplyDeleteAnd the religious are untrained dogs: They continue to shit all over the house that the secular ideas of the Enlightement built and don't even think to clean it up.
ReplyDeleteRight back at you weiner wrecker
ReplyDeleteI just find it funny that the political philosophers that Beck promotes--Rand, Milton Friedman, F.A. Hayek--were either atheists or agnostics. Rand being the atheist and the other two being agnostics.
ReplyDeleteReligions are like the music industry. Their business model is obsolete and they don't get it. Religion loses more and more significance because we no longer need a stone age social system in the space age.
ReplyDeleteHis website is evidence enough what a leech the rabbi is.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rabbidaniellapin.com/store.php
Ohhh! My copy of "Perils of Profanity" is on fucking overnight FedEx as we speak!
ReplyDeleteWeren't Jews thought to be parasites in Europe about 100 years ago? Weren't they eventually considered so parasitic that some countries (Germany esp.) though it was better to just try to kill them off? I would assume a Rabbi should know better then to marginalize minorites, but maybe they've forgotten about the holocaust.
ReplyDeleteWell, parasites don't thithe.
ReplyDeleteI like being a parasite...what with my business' tax-free status and all.
ReplyDeleteOh, wait...
'not religious' is what atheist means whether someone likes the term or not. Please don't give ignorant biggots even a single inch -they'll take your arm.
ReplyDeleteReligion didn't contribute jack shit either. Anything connected to any religion that's any good is secular and in most cases would have probably been even better had it not been tied to a religion. Hitch's book theme 'Religion Poisions Everything' was right -though he was too propagandist compared to Harris or Dawkins, etc..
Sistene Chapel's pretty good no? Well the building's intended for suckers of a certain faith and architecture on it's own is not. And if Mike had been allow to paint whatever the ef he wanted to it would be a shining symbol for the world.
Like most good lies, this Rabbi's comment was kind of true. The true part is that all of us are in a sense parasites leeching off of those who lived before us and built civilization. And like any popular religion, this ass likes to think his religion (or any Abrahamic religion probably 'counts' to this Jewish putz) was responsible for all civilization.
ReplyDeleteThen he pretends, like so many of 'faith' do, that atheists 'don't beleive in anything' therefore they 'don't do anything' and 'Bingo' he concludes they're all leeches.
It's important not only to call these f**kers on their lies, but ALSO to really understand where they get these demented ideas from. They're not just pulled out of the air at random.
Also this point about how we're all in a sense leeches directly cuts into rabid Rand-ish Libertarians who think they made themselves all on their own and deserve billions of dollars for all the hard work they have other people do, but own majority shares in the corporation that these people slave at.
Then like this Rabbi's idiot comment here, the Libertarian will call anyone else a Commie thief who wants us all in bread lines and hippie communes.
first it was black people, then it was muslims and now atheists- 2 words FUCK BECK
ReplyDeleteNot necessary. "Not religious" can mean someone who believes in god, but doesn't practice the religion that revolves this specific god, secular.
ReplyDeleteSince they brought up religion, I'm just trying to figure out what these two could possibly have in common. Abraham?
ReplyDeleteAnd no way would I "have a beer with" either of these guys. I don't think I'd enjoy mine very much.
The thought of Jews as parasites in Europe 100 years ago is due to the prohibition on owning land from centuries prior, which forced the group into professions perceived as not productive. (such as banking, law, and medicine that became stereotypically Jewish)
ReplyDeleteEven more ironic is the fact that in Israel, today, the more insanely religious sects of Judaism are funded almost completely by the (officially) secular state. The state built and founded by atheists and non-religious that were regarded as anti-Jewish for doing so.
"Thou shall prosper: The ten commandments for making money"
ReplyDeleteLOL! The hypocrisy of Rabbi Lapin calling atheists parasites is delicious. Religion has been a pyramid scheme ever since, well, the pyramids!
Also, the shameless appeal to consequence doesn't do him any favours.
Rabbi says
ReplyDelete'the quality of life goes up when faith is part of a life and that becomes it's best advert'
Ticker reads
' Pakistani Taliban claim responsibility for today's homicide bombings'.
Stop please it's too funny!
Oh you ignorant arse wipe, the only parasite I see is the smirking rodeo clown next to you.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry Ray did you not find the juxtaposition ironic? Perhaps you could elucidate the reasons for your churlishness.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but coming from someone whose entire income is based on making up scripturally-compatible lies and taking donations from those that listen to him, I can't really take the accusation of "parasite" seriously.
ReplyDeleteClerics of any sort are parasites on the society that bears them.
Sorry Ray, just worked out that you weren't responding to my post. Doh!
ReplyDeletechurlishness is a nice word lol...you don't use it in your normal daily conversation do you? just wondering!
ReplyDeletehe's right!!! religion gave us televisions, medicine, spacecraft and what not more?!>... :D
ReplyDeleteI was wondering about that.
ReplyDeleteSplitting hairs, and I think you're still technically wrong.
ReplyDeleteIt's extremely rare that someone can say "I believe in God" and have that 'god concept' not come from a religion -even if these people deny that they are any religion, they still have the main thread of some Theology. Otherwise why don't they say "I believe in lots of Gods?" rather than "God" singular? Because they get their idea from an upbringing and heritage of Abrahamic mono-theism.
They kicked most of the dogma away (any often less than they might claim if you press the issue), but not the vague, meaningless main/key dogma that there is this one true God that's... whatever they imagine it to be.
Personal Imagination Theolog still is a Theology ( -just the most shallow, self-centered kind.
Atheist means No Theology and that's all.
It reminds me of how often Dawkins uses the term 'unparsimonious' on talk show interviews. I want to shout 'Dude, not only does no one but you ever use that word, but the explanation it will take once you say it makes the usage ironically very unparsimonious itself!'
ReplyDeleteIf you want to get through to the most people, speak in a way they can understand. And that does not mean talking to people like they're two years old and dumbing yourself down. It just means trying to be reasonably understood with clear language.
You get no points for using wildly esoteric words (like 'esoteric'). You just sound like a thesaurus abusing out-of-touch dick and ruin your otherwise good points.
'the quality of life goes up when faith is part of a life and that becomes it's best advert'
ReplyDeleteIf you asked for evidence to support that statement he probably would not understand what you were talking about. Hey, it's religion We get to make shit up if it makes us feel special.
Religious are getting desperate..good.
ReplyDeletePlato's "Noble Lie" is alive and well I see...
ReplyDeleteHe has a facebook page...I would invite everyone to join and spread some intellectual honesty on his page for the rest of his "fans" to see! I am right now!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=81556179792&v=wall#!/group.php?gid=81556179792&v=wall
That's pretty harsh coming from a profession that earns money through begging and extortion.
ReplyDeleteThe churches jumped onboard the charity bandwagon to do nothing but enhance their belief systems public image, mind you charity is also a good way to get a captive audience to listen to the superstitious nonsense that seems such a part of church run charities. They are in it first and foremost to gather up new believers. If they actually assist someone with more than the nothing that is prayer, then that's just good luck.
ReplyDeleteGlenn Beck is a disgrace to America. People outside your country are laughing at you, clean up your act and get this shite off your televisions.
ReplyDeleteWoah woah. I disagree with a LOT of what Glenn Beck says, but that doesn't mean he should be taken off the air. I have to tolerate jack-asses like him for the sake of my own freedom of speech.
ReplyDeleteNo need for your 'woah woah'. It's not an infringment of the 1st ammendment to want or try to get this ass thrown off the air. If enough people protest his demented show the network could choose to remove him. Though that won't happen. It's all about money and that whore rakes it in right now.
ReplyDeleteFat Rush had a TV show many years back and it got cancelled so he sticks with radio. Hopefully Beck will get stuck back in that same place. And then we can hope radio totally dies too.
Beck is a lot more careful than Rush was. The difference is that Rush actually believes what he says, so wasn't quite as careful with his words, wasn't always scrutinizing what he said. It's always Beck's guests that say the vile things, using them as a buffer.
ReplyDeleteBeck on the other hand is in a prison of his own making. His aim is to make money, so he is more aware of the things he says, always scrutinizing the things he says so he's never over the top. He can do that because he doesn't really believe everything he touts; he says what he says to keep the stupid masses coming back, not to seriously change anyone's mind. That's one reason for his embrace of religion. He uses that, as well as patriotism, as one of his many shields against criticism.
I wonder if it eats him up inside. I mean do you think he's lying because he thinks he needs to lie for some greater cause, or is it all money? I mean maybe he thinks the masses need to be manipulated for their own good (not something I agree with). I guess part of me fantasizes about Beck realizing the error of his ways and changing his tune, because if he did, what a powerful blow for good that could be.
ReplyDeleteMSM is business and Beck is there to cause controversy, which creates more money for Fox.
ReplyDeleteWith a deadpan, Beck insists that he is not political: “I could give a flying crap about the political process.” Making money, on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, and controversy is its own coinage. “We’re an entertainment company,” Beck says.
Beck has previously described himself as “a rodeo clown” and conceded, “If you take what I say as gospel, you’re an idiot.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/08/beck-on-politics/
I think it is more likely that they are laughing their way to the bank...
ReplyDeleteOh great so Beck basically makes the same excuse as Jon Stewart. What's the Mark Twain quote? "I sometimes wonder whether we're ruled by smart men who are putting us on or idiots who really mean it?"
ReplyDeleteBeck and Stewart cannot be compared. Stewart isn't selling gold and telling about the coming of the NWO.
ReplyDeletePlease, no. Just speak however you want and if I don't understand I will ask for clarification.
ReplyDeleteIf people stopped watching him he would be taken off the air by the nature of supply and demand. You shouldn't force him off... but the fact that he exists is a bad sign.
ReplyDeleteMost people don't know this but Beck used to be a stand up comedian... he went on a tour a couple of years ago just before his tv show and all this stuff really took off. I think he's basically an ultra Andy-Kaufman-esque comedian: he's telling jokes that only he's laughing at. He just acts out a role and spews out bullshit and laughs all the way to the bank at the people who take him seriously.
ReplyDeleteTrue. But he does takes a very soft stance towards religion. I get the feeling he's a 'cultural' religious follower. But to be honest its people like that who allow this idiot to proclaim they are endorsed by millions of followers.
ReplyDeleteWhat? Atheists “do nothing to add energy into the system?” LoL!
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