so suddently the christian relligious nuts don't mind homosexuals when they can use them as harrasment? i think this is even more belittering to homosexuals then the muslims.
Some may find what was said funny, but intolerance to me is disgusting. The jokes that were being tossed around vividly revealed the feeling of revulsion they hold against all homosexuals and Muslims. Absolute prejudices that are not wavered by the existing exceptions is complete foolishness.
Uhhh yes! Absolutely!!! Provided the joke is intelligent enough and actually funny. The only thing that scares me more than fundamentalist religion is humorless people taking themselves VASTLY too seriously.
<span>Uhhh yes! Absolutely!!! Provided the joke is intelligent enough and actually funny. The only thing that scares me more than fundamentalist religion is humorless people taking themselves VASTLY too seriously.
Generally the more offensive it is, the more I'm laughing. You could be dead of esophageal cancer within the month just like the rest of us, so laugh. </span>
<span>Sanctimonious, super-politically correct liberals aren't doing anyone any favors by being stuck-up prigs. It accomplishes exactly nothing and makes everyone wish they were dead. </span>
Blake: A close friend of mine is a "Frog" (French Cdn) and I'm a "Kraut" (German stock). We exchange racist humor after converting them into the Frog and Kraut category. Although we're both the brunt of each other's jokes, we often find them absolutely hilarious. So don't be assuming the title of house designator of intelligent humor. But like me, my friend will make a very obvious point of NOT laughing at some moron shitbag who uses humor on an absent ethnicity to elevate himself and his fellow cretins. If that makes me a "<span>Sanctimonious, super-politically correct liberal," then fuck the conservative who believe they are "intelligent enough and actually funny" enough to tell a good racist joke.</span>
So the standard of whether jokes involving a minority of some sort are permissible is whether or not a member of the potentially offended party is in the room to vet their appropriateness? Sounds like a riot! An endless landscape of Carrot Tops, Bill Cosbys, Gallaghers and Jeff Foxworthys. Complementary cyanide capsules at the door, hopefully!
This is absolutely detestable. Even though they're joking, it just shows that they don't see homosexuals as equal people. Instead, they treat them as lesser beings, something they can just joke about and use as tools for provocation. I would hope homosexuals never patronize such a bar, because inciting hatred is really not much better than actually doing the hating.
So the muslims building the mosque arn't Americans? It's funny because you wouldn't want a gay bar next to your church? How are these people alowed on TV. I know things are different in the US from here in the UK but shouldn't the government have a rule that if someone says this stuff on TV, they have to be ridiculed and punched in the face?
The fact that you can't tell (or feel) the difference is the reason I detest a certain element of the "new" atheists, who toss the baby out with the bathwater when they deride compassion, kindness, civility, worthwhile social norms and acceptance and understanding of human weaknesses along with religion. Second thought, its more a trait of the young in general (where a high percentage of this trendy "new" atheism seems to originate.) Thanks to providence I'm over 65, and won't have to survive in the world you self-congratulating <span>narcissists</span> create.
Hold on, let me get my violin. Frankly, I'm glad the cowed, nicey-nicey atheism from days of yore that keeps its mouth shut even when being kicked in the shins and shushes down anyone who dares to offend religious sensibility intentionally, is falling out of favor. Religion HARMS people, and it harms them A LOT. It's time to start getting more confrontational, and if the Gallup polls are to be believed, it's working; because after the long, dismal flatline of the 20th century, the uptick in freedom people apparently feel to proclaim their disbelief is indisputably ascendant.
No one's deriding human weakness or the value of compassion here, and there's no baby in the bathwater of gruesome stone aged superstitions.
<span>Gosh, Blake, what at education you are!!!! Religion really harms people????? An anti-theist for over 50 years, I was totally unaware!!! I'll hereafter have to change my argument style to insults, ethnic humor, aggressive intolerance , condemnation, cynicism and uncompromising insensitivity that has historically always worked as a remedy to people’s differences.</span><span></span> <span>You remind me of a Utube string assault of the most vicious, obscene and disgusting kind by a group of young atheists on some obvious Christian granny who posted a "stupid," but sincere concern for the souls of some of these lovely youngsters.</span><span></span> <span>Give me Fundy Granny any day...perhaps with some violin</span> <span>PS:How nice 4U that atheism is gaining popularity, allowing loudmouth sheeple to jump on the bandwagon in the comfort of support.</span>
I agree with the core sentiment - if any religion demands equal tolerance, they should also practice equal tolerance. So it would indeed be a good test for any place of worship that if they want their place of worship tolerated, they should, in turn, tolerate a gay bar next door.
That said, Glenn Beck of course delivers this idea in the most offensive manner possible. Treating homosexuality as a weapon. The names like "suspicious packages" linking Islam as a whole with terrorism (and the "turban" name was borderline racist).
And while it is an interesting hypothetical, obviously in practice building a gay bar next to a mosque is a bad idea for all parties involved.
Turban cowboy is racist? I confess I didn't understand how this one relates to a gay bar at all. But even more baffling to me is how you relate a turbin to race.
It's not that it relates to a gay bar - it's just the names they came up with for the gay bar play on Islamic stereotypes which they don't mind banding about on television.
The turban thing, well turbans aren't exactly an Islamic thing, so they've basically thought Muslims = brown = turbans. Actually relates to how Sikhs were attacked by people post 9/11: it just shows such ignorance.
well i liked it... and if homosexuals cant laught to them selfs as muslims cant then whos intolarent? and we could get together and trow some jokes about stupid redneck christians :]
Im gay and I thought it was funny. A joke is a joke, just because it involves YOUR situation doesn't detract from the comedy. I would love Glen Beck to go ahead with this... he'd have no idea how much rope he would be handing me and just how high I could hang him with it.
Depending on the alcoholic... i mean person..the bar may well be their place of worship. I have friends who have prayed to the porcelain god many many times. lol
Is it wrong of me to think that this was actually kinda funny?
ReplyDeleteI hope they actually do it.
ReplyDeleteso suddently the christian relligious nuts don't mind homosexuals when they can use them as harrasment? i think this is even more belittering to homosexuals then the muslims.
ReplyDeleteSome may find what was said funny, but intolerance to me is disgusting. The jokes that were being tossed around vividly revealed the feeling of revulsion they hold against all homosexuals and Muslims. Absolute prejudices that are not wavered by the existing exceptions is complete foolishness.
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this is both islamic and homosexual hatred how stupid...
ReplyDeletethese two are as odious as even the most extreme islamists.... nasty little men.
ReplyDelete"...as someone who wouldn't want this gay bar built next to my church or a temple of mine..."
ReplyDeleteSo you are just as bigoted as the muslims you criticize?
It's funny, but UTTERLY hypocritical. That said, I would love to see it happen and watch the cultural chaos unfold.
ReplyDeleteRock the boat, people...
Glen should stand to his support, even if a gay bar is open by his church.
ReplyDeleteIsn't there a zoning regulation about opening bars next to places of worship?
ReplyDeleteExactly, if they go through with it then the next step is for the Muslims to open a gay bar as clsoe to Glenn's church as possible.
ReplyDeleteLOL it should be the other way around.
ReplyDeleteBut this was a bad analogy. The gay bar is actually offensive, but a mosque isn't -- or at least isn't AS offensive.
ReplyDeleteI think it is a great idea.
ReplyDeleteI would actually be bothered a lot more by the mosque than the gay bar.
Do you find some nigger jokes "easily funny enough for a chuckle?" For many people, this "shit"writes itself as well.
ReplyDeleteIt is a good idea. A simple strip joint would be cool too.
ReplyDeleteLeave it to the Fox News crowd for thinking of a gay bar. Confirms my suspicions. (Not that there's anything wrong with that!)
ReplyDeleteWhy not a strip joint? We now how crazy those muslim terrorists are for strip joints.
Umm, so... mocking Islam for being intolerant of gays = hating black people???
ReplyDeleteUhhh yes! Absolutely!!! Provided the joke is intelligent enough and actually funny. The only thing that scares me more than fundamentalist religion is humorless people taking themselves VASTLY too seriously.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb5tnUtK-34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCK2QkucL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZCS5I80X-8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWRNP8gNVMM
Generally the more offensive it is, the more I'm laughing. You could be dead of esophageal cancer within the month just like the rest of us, laugh.
<span>Uhhh yes! Absolutely!!! Provided the joke is intelligent enough and actually funny. The only thing that scares me more than fundamentalist religion is humorless people taking themselves VASTLY too seriously.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb5tnUtK-34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCK2QkucL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZCS5I80X-8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWRNP8gNVMM
Generally the more offensive it is, the more I'm laughing. You could be dead of esophageal cancer within the month just like the rest of us, so laugh. </span>
<span>Sanctimonious, super-politically correct liberals aren't doing anyone any favors by being stuck-up prigs. It accomplishes exactly nothing and makes everyone wish they were dead.
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It might be good idea but these 2 are still douche bags!
ReplyDeleteBlake: A close friend of mine is a "Frog" (French Cdn) and I'm a "Kraut" (German stock). We exchange racist humor after converting them into the Frog and Kraut category. Although we're both the brunt of each other's jokes, we often find them absolutely hilarious. So don't be assuming the title of house designator of intelligent humor.
ReplyDeleteBut like me, my friend will make a very obvious point of NOT laughing at some moron shitbag who uses humor on an absent ethnicity to elevate himself and his fellow cretins. If that makes me a "<span>Sanctimonious, super-politically correct liberal," then fuck the conservative who believe they are "intelligent enough and actually funny" enough to tell a good racist joke.</span>
So the standard of whether jokes involving a minority of some sort are permissible is whether or not a member of the potentially offended party is in the room to vet their appropriateness? Sounds like a riot! An endless landscape of Carrot Tops, Bill Cosbys, Gallaghers and Jeff Foxworthys. Complementary cyanide capsules at the door, hopefully!
ReplyDeleteThis is absolutely detestable. Even though they're joking, it just shows that they don't see homosexuals as equal people. Instead, they treat them as lesser beings, something they can just joke about and use as tools for provocation. I would hope homosexuals never patronize such a bar, because inciting hatred is really not much better than actually doing the hating.
ReplyDeletemeant to say actively inciting hatred
ReplyDeleteSo the muslims building the mosque arn't Americans? It's funny because you wouldn't want a gay bar next to your church? How are these people alowed on TV. I know things are different in the US from here in the UK but shouldn't the government have a rule that if someone says this stuff on TV, they have to be ridiculed and punched in the face?
ReplyDeleteGreatest. Idea. Ever.
ReplyDeleteThey should surround it with a home for stray dogs, a gay bar, a brewery and a sausage factory.
The fact that you can't tell (or feel) the difference is the reason I detest a certain element of the "new" atheists, who toss the baby out with the bathwater when they deride compassion, kindness, civility, worthwhile social norms and acceptance and understanding of human weaknesses along with religion.
ReplyDeleteSecond thought, its more a trait of the young in general (where a high percentage of this trendy "new" atheism seems to originate.)
Thanks to providence I'm over 65, and won't have to survive in the world you self-congratulating <span>narcissists</span> create.
Hold on, let me get my violin. Frankly, I'm glad the cowed, nicey-nicey atheism from days of yore that keeps its mouth shut even when being kicked in the shins and shushes down anyone who dares to offend religious sensibility intentionally, is falling out of favor. Religion HARMS people, and it harms them A LOT. It's time to start getting more confrontational, and if the Gallup polls are to be believed, it's working; because after the long, dismal flatline of the 20th century, the uptick in freedom people apparently feel to proclaim their disbelief is indisputably ascendant.
ReplyDeleteNo one's deriding human weakness or the value of compassion here, and there's no baby in the bathwater of gruesome stone aged superstitions.
ReplyDelete<span>Gosh, Blake, what at education you are!!!! Religion really harms people????? An anti-theist for over 50 years, I was totally unaware!!! I'll hereafter have to change my argument style to insults, ethnic humor, aggressive intolerance , condemnation, cynicism and uncompromising insensitivity that has historically always worked as a remedy to people’s differences.</span><span></span>
<span>You remind me of a Utube string assault of the most vicious, obscene and disgusting kind by a group of young atheists on some obvious Christian granny who posted a "stupid," but sincere concern for the souls of some of these lovely youngsters.</span><span></span>
<span>Give me Fundy Granny any day...perhaps with some violin</span>
<span>PS:How nice 4U that atheism is gaining popularity, allowing loudmouth sheeple to jump on the bandwagon in the comfort of support.</span>
Building a gay bar next to a mosque next to the WTC site just sounds like a matryoshka doll of bad ideas. So, when does construction start?
ReplyDeleteI agree with the core sentiment - if any religion demands equal tolerance, they should also practice equal tolerance. So it would indeed be a good test for any place of worship that if they want their place of worship tolerated, they should, in turn, tolerate a gay bar next door.
ReplyDeleteThat said, Glenn Beck of course delivers this idea in the most offensive manner possible. Treating homosexuality as a weapon. The names like "suspicious packages" linking Islam as a whole with terrorism (and the "turban" name was borderline racist).
And while it is an interesting hypothetical, obviously in practice building a gay bar next to a mosque is a bad idea for all parties involved.
I haven't seen this video, but a fundy, granny or not, deserves ridicule. Do you consider ridicule 'vicious, obscene, disgusting'?
ReplyDeleteTurban cowboy is racist? I confess I didn't understand how this one relates to a gay bar at all. But even more baffling to me is how you relate a turbin to race.
ReplyDeleteIt's not that it relates to a gay bar - it's just the names they came up with for the gay bar play on Islamic stereotypes which they don't mind banding about on television.
ReplyDeleteThe turban thing, well turbans aren't exactly an Islamic thing, so they've basically thought Muslims = brown = turbans. Actually relates to how Sikhs were attacked by people post 9/11: it just shows such ignorance.
And I'm not relating turbans to a race: clearly they are, because if they are relating it to Islam, they'd be incorrect in doing so.
ReplyDeletewell i liked it... and if homosexuals cant laught to them selfs as muslims cant then whos intolarent? and we could get together and trow some jokes about stupid redneck christians :]
ReplyDeleteIm gay and I thought it was funny. A joke is a joke, just because it involves YOUR situation doesn't detract from the comedy. I would love Glen Beck to go ahead with this... he'd have no idea how much rope he would be handing me and just how high I could hang him with it.
ReplyDeleteI say gay bar to one side...atheist community center on the other... you know, to keep it nice and balanced. 8-)
ReplyDelete@john ya actually I do..got any good ones cause my black neighbor and I love to trade the atheist and nigger jokes back and forth.
ReplyDeleteDepending on the alcoholic... i mean person..the bar may well be their place of worship. I have friends who have prayed to the porcelain god many many times. lol
ReplyDeleteI say when they get picketed it should be done by scantly clad women... showing their wrists and ankles....that'll teach em' lol.
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