Wow, hold on. They actally let the pro-suicide guy talk, say his peice and didn't give a last minute final word to the other guy? This was... actually fair and balanced =-O
You'd think that being the case that God, being omnipotent and all, could have picked a better way to symbolically cleans humanity of original sin. That is what his sorta kinda suicide was all about, wasn't it?
An organization fighting for the right to doctor assisted suicide: Compassion & Choices.
One argument I hear a lot is the one about someone talking grandma into suicide just to get her money early. My answer is that some people missuse all kinds of rights, but that provides no basis for taking them away from everyone. In context, I have a right to drive a car and I can certainly hurt myself with it. Just walking in a park can get me killed. Life is risky.
Here is a link to Oregon's Death With Dignity Act. It's worth reading and noting the many protections built into the Act. However, like my pious sister-in-law, some may not want to read the Act because they're against it anyway. BTW, she lives in Oregon.
Of course, wouldn't ya know that the chief misery cult is pumping large sums into fighting right-to-die legislation. I quote from an article titled <span><span>
</span> <span><span> J.D. in the <span><span>Journal of Legal Medicine October-December, 2009. (Tucker is Director of Legal Affairs for Compassion & Choices.) </span></span></span></span><span><span><span><span><span><span>
Quote: "Although many individual Catholics support end-of-life choice, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the leadership body of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States, has been steadfastly opposed. The Church has been the largest single contributor to campaigns opposing aid-in-dying legislation and ballot measures. [FN34]"
Quote of footnote 34: FN34: <span><span>
The Catholic Church contributed: $777,782 (53.74% of the opponents' budget) in Washington State in 2008; $1,288,894 (73.9%) in Maine in 2000; $2,173,330 (38.0%) in Michigan in 1998; $1,677,699 (73.6%) in the 1997 Oregon campaign; $968,806 (59.3%) in the 1994 Oregon campaign; $2,199,986 (60.6%) in Californiain 1992; and $745,951 (64.5%) in Washington in 1991. </span></span> </span></span></span></span></span></span>
An organization fighting for the right to doctor assisted suicide: Compassion & Choices.
One argument I hear a lot is the one about someone talking grandma into suicide just to get her money early. My answer is that some people missuse all kinds of rights, but that provides no basis for taking them away from everyone. In context, I have a right to drive a car and I can certainly hurt myself with it. Just walking in a park can get me killed. Life is risky.
Here is a link to Oregon's Death With Dignity Act. It's worth reading and noting the many protections built into the Act. However, like my pious sister-in-law, some may not want to read the Act because they're against it anyway. BTW, she lives in Oregon.
Of course, wouldn't ya know that the chief misery cult is pumping large sums into fighting right-to-die legislation. I quote from an article titled <span><span>
</span> <span><span> J.D. in the <span><span>Journal of Legal Medicine October-December, 2009. (Tucker is Director of Legal Affairs for Compassion & Choices.) </span></span></span></span><span><span><span><span><span><span>
Quote: "Although many individual Catholics support end-of-life choice, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the leadership body of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States, has been steadfastly opposed. The Church has been the largest single contributor to campaigns opposing aid-in-dying legislation and ballot measures. [FN34]"
Quote of footnote 34: FN34: <span><span>
The Catholic Church contributed: $777,782 (53.74% of the opponents' budget) in Washington State in 2008; $1,288,894 (73.9%) in Maine in 2000; $2,173,330 (38.0%) in Michigan in 1998; $1,677,699 (73.6%) in the 1997 Oregon campaign; $968,806 (59.3%) in the 1994 Oregon campaign; $2,199,986 (60.6%) in Californiain 1992; and $745,951 (64.5%) in Washington in 1991. </span></span> </span></span></span></span></span></span>
An organization fighting for the right to doctor assisted suicide: Compassion & Choices.
One argument I hear a lot is the one about someone talking grandma into suicide just to get her money early. My answer is that some people missuse all kinds of rights, but that provides no basis for taking them away from everyone. In context, I have a right to drive a car and I can certainly hurt myself with it. Just walking in a park can get me killed. Life is risky.
Here is a link to Oregon's Death With Dignity Act. It's worth reading and noting the many protections built into the Act. However, like my pious sister-in-law, some may not want to read the Act because they're against it anyway. BTW, she lives in Oregon.
Of course, wouldn't ya know that the chief misery cult is pumping large sums into fighting right-to-die legislation. I quote from an article titled <span><span>
</span> <span><span> J.D. in the <span><span>Journal of Legal Medicine October-December, 2009. (Tucker is Director of Legal Affairs for Compassion & Choices.) </span></span></span></span><span><span><span><span><span><span>
Quote: "Although many individual Catholics support end-of-life choice, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the leadership body of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States, has been steadfastly opposed. The Church has been the largest single contributor to campaigns opposing aid-in-dying legislation and ballot measures. [FN34]"
Quote of footnote 34: FN34: <span><span>
The Catholic Church contributed: $777,782 (53.74% of the opponents' budget) in Washington State in 2008; $1,288,894 (73.9%) in Maine in 2000; $2,173,330 (38.0%) in Michigan in 1998; $1,677,699 (73.6%) in the 1997 Oregon campaign; $968,806 (59.3%) in the 1994 Oregon campaign; $2,199,986 (60.6%) in Californiain 1992; and $745,951 (64.5%) in Washington in 1991. </span></span> </span></span></span></span></span></span>
What drives me nuts about this is that if you believe in an afterlife, you don't actually believe in death. The religion serves as a way to completely avoid having to deal with the concept of death. I don't think we should allow them to refer to death as death, if they don't even have the concept of permanent death. They believe life on earth is followed by a transition to life in another place. To "take your own life" is a misnomer under that worldview. It is merely to hasten your transition to the next, possibly better, phase of life.
I think a teenager today would at least visit the website before killing himself. Then he'll say, "Oh, this is for old people" and will choose to live.
They don't even consider the fact that the concepts of life and death are entirely based on the critters we see in the natural world. All of these have organs to acquire and use energy. They claim a ghostly life which doesn't require any of the orgains of life. Then, they claim a ghostly consciousness which has no organs of consciousness: such as sense organs, nerves, and a brain. Of course, nothing has to make much sense if a super ghost with endless magic powers is added to the mess. The fact that none of this crazy-talk makes any sense at all doesn't save people like us from condemnation.
<span>PhillisDorris</span><span></span><img></img> I'm right there with you. Anything to do with FOX makes me want to vomit. To be honest, I read the comments before I will even consider subjecting myself to the anger and frustration of viewing and listening to the male religious talking heads or the female barbie doll look alikes that they put on as "interviewers". FOX should not be considered a news channel. It should be labeled as the right wing propaganda spin channel that they truly are. If people want news try CNN or BBC.
It unusal that we as a society have compasion to put down our pets to reduce there suffering while we deprive this right to other humans. Could this incourage suicides? Perhaps. There are very resonable ways to midigate this though. The amount of unessicary human suffering that could be avoided is enormous.
Marketing people can only dream of the impact of advertisment described by the host here.
ReplyDeleteI see debates like this on FOX all the time and they make me want to kill myself.
ReplyDeleteWow, hold on. They actally let the pro-suicide guy talk, say his peice and didn't give a last minute final word to the other guy? This was... actually fair and balanced =-O
ReplyDeleteLife is a gift from God that you can't trun it down, since he gets easily emotional about it.
ReplyDelete"Life is a gift from God"
ReplyDeleteYou'd think that being the case that God, being omnipotent and all, could have picked a better way to symbolically cleans humanity of original sin. That is what his sorta kinda suicide was all about, wasn't it?
An organization fighting for the right to doctor assisted suicide: Compassion & Choices.
ReplyDeleteOne argument I hear a lot is the one about someone talking grandma into suicide just to get her money early. My answer is that some people missuse all kinds of rights, but that provides no basis for taking them away from everyone. In context, I have a right to drive a car and I can certainly hurt myself with it. Just walking in a park can get me killed. Life is risky.
Here is a link to Oregon's Death With Dignity Act. It's worth reading and noting the many protections built into the Act. However, like my pious sister-in-law, some may not want to read the Act because they're against it anyway. BTW, she lives in Oregon.
Of course, wouldn't ya know that the chief misery cult is pumping large sums into fighting right-to-die legislation. I quote from an article titled <span><span>
THE CAMPAIGN TO DENY TERMINALLY ILL PATIENTS INFORMATION AND CHOICES AT THE END OF LIFE by Kathryn L Tucker
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</span>
<span><span> J.D. in the <span><span>Journal of Legal Medicine October-December, 2009. (Tucker is Director of Legal Affairs for Compassion & Choices.)
</span></span></span></span><span><span><span><span><span><span>
Quote: "Although many individual Catholics support end-of-life choice, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the leadership body of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States, has been steadfastly opposed. The Church has been the largest single contributor to campaigns opposing aid-in-dying legislation and ballot measures. [FN34]"
Quote of footnote 34:
FN34: <span><span>
The Catholic Church contributed:
$777,782 (53.74% of the opponents' budget) in Washington State in 2008; $1,288,894 (73.9%) in Maine in 2000;
$2,173,330 (38.0%) in Michigan in 1998;
$1,677,699 (73.6%) in the 1997 Oregon campaign;
$968,806 (59.3%) in the 1994 Oregon campaign;
$2,199,986 (60.6%) in Californiain 1992; and
$745,951 (64.5%) in Washington in 1991.
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</span></span></span></span></span></span>
An organization fighting for the right to doctor assisted suicide: Compassion & Choices.
ReplyDeleteOne argument I hear a lot is the one about someone talking grandma into suicide just to get her money early. My answer is that some people missuse all kinds of rights, but that provides no basis for taking them away from everyone. In context, I have a right to drive a car and I can certainly hurt myself with it. Just walking in a park can get me killed. Life is risky.
Here is a link to Oregon's Death With Dignity Act. It's worth reading and noting the many protections built into the Act. However, like my pious sister-in-law, some may not want to read the Act because they're against it anyway. BTW, she lives in Oregon.
Of course, wouldn't ya know that the chief misery cult is pumping large sums into fighting right-to-die legislation. I quote from an article titled <span><span>
THE CAMPAIGN TO DENY TERMINALLY ILL PATIENTS INFORMATION AND CHOICES AT THE END OF LIFE by Kathryn L Tucker
</span>
</span>
<span><span> J.D. in the <span><span>Journal of Legal Medicine October-December, 2009. (Tucker is Director of Legal Affairs for Compassion & Choices.)
</span></span></span></span><span><span><span><span><span><span>
Quote: "Although many individual Catholics support end-of-life choice, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the leadership body of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States, has been steadfastly opposed. The Church has been the largest single contributor to campaigns opposing aid-in-dying legislation and ballot measures. [FN34]"
Quote of footnote 34:
FN34: <span><span>
The Catholic Church contributed:
$777,782 (53.74% of the opponents' budget) in Washington State in 2008; $1,288,894 (73.9%) in Maine in 2000;
$2,173,330 (38.0%) in Michigan in 1998;
$1,677,699 (73.6%) in the 1997 Oregon campaign;
$968,806 (59.3%) in the 1994 Oregon campaign;
$2,199,986 (60.6%) in Californiain 1992; and
$745,951 (64.5%) in Washington in 1991.
</span></span>
</span></span></span></span></span></span>
An organization fighting for the right to doctor assisted suicide: Compassion & Choices.
ReplyDeleteOne argument I hear a lot is the one about someone talking grandma into suicide just to get her money early. My answer is that some people missuse all kinds of rights, but that provides no basis for taking them away from everyone. In context, I have a right to drive a car and I can certainly hurt myself with it. Just walking in a park can get me killed. Life is risky.
Here is a link to Oregon's Death With Dignity Act. It's worth reading and noting the many protections built into the Act. However, like my pious sister-in-law, some may not want to read the Act because they're against it anyway. BTW, she lives in Oregon.
Of course, wouldn't ya know that the chief misery cult is pumping large sums into fighting right-to-die legislation. I quote from an article titled <span><span>
THE CAMPAIGN TO DENY TERMINALLY ILL PATIENTS INFORMATION AND CHOICES AT THE END OF LIFE by Kathryn L Tucker
</span>
</span>
<span><span> J.D. in the <span><span>Journal of Legal Medicine October-December, 2009. (Tucker is Director of Legal Affairs for Compassion & Choices.)
</span></span></span></span><span><span><span><span><span><span>
Quote: "Although many individual Catholics support end-of-life choice, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the leadership body of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States, has been steadfastly opposed. The Church has been the largest single contributor to campaigns opposing aid-in-dying legislation and ballot measures. [FN34]"
Quote of footnote 34:
FN34: <span><span>
The Catholic Church contributed:
$777,782 (53.74% of the opponents' budget) in Washington State in 2008; $1,288,894 (73.9%) in Maine in 2000;
$2,173,330 (38.0%) in Michigan in 1998;
$1,677,699 (73.6%) in the 1997 Oregon campaign;
$968,806 (59.3%) in the 1994 Oregon campaign;
$2,199,986 (60.6%) in Californiain 1992; and
$745,951 (64.5%) in Washington in 1991.
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<span>"Life is a gift from God" </span>
ReplyDeleteHollow claim when millions die of hunger each year
I think these people die of hunger in defiance of Christian teaching.
ReplyDeleteWhat drives me nuts about this is that if you believe in an afterlife, you don't actually believe in death. The religion serves as a way to completely avoid having to deal with the concept of death. I don't think we should allow them to refer to death as death, if they don't even have the concept of permanent death. They believe life on earth is followed by a transition to life in another place. To "take your own life" is a misnomer under that worldview. It is merely to hasten your transition to the next, possibly better, phase of life.
ReplyDeleteI think a teenager today would at least visit the website before killing himself. Then he'll say, "Oh, this is for old people" and will choose to live.
ReplyDelete:-P
They don't even consider the fact that the concepts of life and death are entirely based on the critters we see in the natural world. All of these have organs to acquire and use energy. They claim a ghostly life which doesn't require any of the orgains of life. Then, they claim a ghostly consciousness which has no organs of consciousness: such as sense organs, nerves, and a brain. Of course, nothing has to make much sense if a super ghost with endless magic powers is added to the mess. The fact that none of this crazy-talk makes any sense at all doesn't save people like us from condemnation.
ReplyDelete<span>PhillisDorris</span><span></span><img></img> I'm right there with you. Anything to do with FOX makes me want to vomit. To be honest, I read the comments before I will even consider subjecting myself to the anger and frustration of viewing and listening to the male religious talking heads or the female barbie doll look alikes that they put on as "interviewers". FOX should not be considered a news channel. It should be labeled as the right wing propaganda spin channel that they truly are. If people want news try CNN or BBC.
ReplyDeleteIt unusal that we as a society have compasion to put down our pets to reduce there suffering while we deprive this right to other humans. Could this incourage suicides? Perhaps. There are very resonable ways to midigate this though. The amount of unessicary human suffering that could be avoided is enormous.
ReplyDeleteA god who granted life as a gift without warranty would be foolish not to expect a few returns.
ReplyDeleteAs I understand it Kevorkian did not kill his clients himself...except for one. He was sent to prison for that one as he deserved.
ReplyDeleteAbout the "Life is a gift from God" comment...
ReplyDeleteDidn't Jebus commit "Cop-assisted suicide"?