Monday, May 10, 2010

Palin: America Is A Christian Nation

May 6, 2010 on Fox News with Bill O'Reilly
(via DoctorE)


  1. Oh dear, so wrong so often ... and Palin's wig adds comedy value.

  2. Just because your ancestors believed in imaginary friends, doesn't mean they are right...

  3. I dont know one person in the UK that thinks Thatcher is anything more than and evil witch and a spawn of satan. I can see why Palin likes her. oh, and I was talking to jesus the other day and he said he gets a hard on when palin shoots animals from her helicopter and wooops when o'riely shouts at kids. He said thats the way he intended it.

  4. Every time she says, "go back to the foundations," or something of that nature, I cringe a little. Progress is about going forward, not about trying to move backwards. The founders were pretty smart men, but we know so much more today. Why not implement this knowledge? Neo-cons are afraid of modernity. Well, sorry, it's coming whether you like it or not.

  5. Even though many were simply deists, at the end of the day, who cares what the founding fathers believed personally? We should judge the merits of what they wrote based on modern-day secularism.

  6. Exactly how is ENCOURAGING something not an imposition?

    Advertising and promoting an event is effective and affective precisely because it is an imposition. If it were not, then to mention it or discuss its potentially deleterious effects would be entirely pointless. The process of suggesting to somebody what they should do with their time is, in all circumstances, an imposition of your opinion onto them. And could hence be seen as offensive.

    No different than if an Atheist president were to suggest a national day of non-prayer. During which all religious people were encouraged to not speak to their deity or meditate, and go out for a jog or read some philosophy instead. This would, of course, be seen as an imposition.

    O' Reilly -and Palin for that matter- as usual lapse into semantic wordplay and vague allusions to irrelevant -and usually untrue- facts to support their blatantly biased agenda.


    In God We Trust did not become the official U.S. national motto until after the passage of an Act of Congress in 1956. (Wikipedia)

    The Commandments not represented in US law:
    1. Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Beside Me
    2. Thou Shalt Not Worship Any Graven Images
    3. Thou Shalt Not Take the Name of the Lord Thy God in Vain
    4. Remember the Sabbath Day to Rest and Keep it Holy
    5. Honor Thy Father and Thy Mother
    6. Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery
    7. Thou Shalt Not Covet Anything That is Thy Neighbor's

    8., 9., 10. Don't Kill, Steal, or Bear False Witness (Courtrooms) are utilised. Of course this is also the case in virtually every known "civilised" -a term I am loathe to use- culture in history.

    Foundation of US State and God:

    1: God is not mentioned in the constitution.

    2: In the Declaration of Independence, God is alluded to, though not directly mentioned. (“Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.”)
    All of which are strictly interpretable only as a Deistic and not a Theistic reference to God. Hence, NOT Judeo-Christian. Religion is also unmentioned and the document is entirely superseded by the totally non-religious constitution.

    Most State constitutions do mention a God. Of course some of them also attempt to deny office or the right to bear witness to Atheists. These are unenforceable laws superseded by the Constitution. (In all likelihood this was a prime reason -preventing religious persecution- the constitution so studiously avoided reference to even a deistic God, in whom many of its even more anti-religious founders professed belief).

    And finally, nobody is suggesting, as Palin disingenuously insinuates, that religious people cannot practice reverence to invisible entities in public. Just that they have no right to automatically expect others to respect or support them when they do.

  7. <span>Ok Palin, let's do the research...</span>

    <span>"...The government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion." </span>
    <span>-John Adams, Treaty of Tripoli</span>

    <span>“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law." —Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, Feb.10, 1814; see also a letter to Mayor Cartwright, June 5th 1824.“The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.”  
    —Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823  </span>

    And just for good measure:  </span>" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="170" height="140

  8. So... by her logic, since the founding fathers were mostly slave owners, does that make us a "Slavery Nation"? This woman is a moron.

  9. I might just have to stop visiting this blog. It's the only reason I'm up to date on Palin, father fuckhead on fox, O'reilly and so on, and yeah, it's not like I need to be, since I don't live in the US. :)

  10. Not related, but relevant to my interests:
    Jesus came back in the form of 4 European dudes. And he's kind of awesome.

  11. two people aleady posted great comments but like most people know the constitutions only mention is to sepperate church and state =D
    and the "founding farmers" at least most didn't care about church and there are lots of cool quotes of them saying that they sleept in church and such

  12. to add to my last comment "in god we trust" was added in like the 50s or something?

  13. Wait -- Thatcher? Does she think Thatcher is still in power?

  14. <p>Just to add to your nice quotes.
    </p><p>"When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not care to support it, so that its professors are obliged to call for the help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one."
    </p><p>-Benjamin Franklin.
    </p><p>"The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for
    </p><p>-John Adams
    </p><p>"What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on
    </p><p>civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of
    </p><p>political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of
    </p><p>the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty
    </p><p>have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and
    </p><p>perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy."
    </p><p>-James Madison
    </p><p>"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of...Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all....Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity."
    </p><p>-Thomas Payne
    </p><p>"Government being, among other purposes, instituted to protect the consciences of men from oppression, it certainly is the duty of Rulers, not only to abstain from it themselves, but according to their stations, to prevent it in others."
    </p><p>-George Washington.


  15. Originates in the 1800s but was made official in 1956.

  16. Its just the usual Thatcher-Reagan love-in that all conservatives seem to indulge in, methinks.

  17. i wonder if u would ask a cristians "what if there would be mandatory day of blasphemy"

  18. I'm gonna puke

  19. freethinkerhigh@gmail.comMay 11, 2010 at 5:12 AM

    this made me LOL

  20. As she has clearly not caught up with the Enlightenment yet, I suspect that even the 1980's are the distant future to her.

  21. Though I'm inlcined to agree, that is kind of the other extreme isn't it?  insisting that our perspective be the 'default' one.  Like it or not we live in a republic where most people believe in a God of some kind or another.

  22. palinforpresident0SHIT'May 11, 2010 at 10:39 AM

    Sarah Palin = MILF (Moron I'd Like To Forget) - Bill Maher

  23. If the United States were truly based on Judeo-Christian values, then we would not be living in a democracy.

    One wonders when these nincompoops will actually read the Bible and figure that out.

  24. i got 25 seconds in and raged to hard to continue watching

  25. In a follow-up video, Barack Obama stops by to thank Palin for reminding the nation why we voted for him.

  26. O'Reilly, mentions the ten commandments in the hall of the supreme court.

    Does he know that the building was constructed in 1935?
    A bit after our founding fathers.