Monday, March 22, 2010

Muslim Cleric on Wife Beating in the Early Days of Islam


Aired January 7, 2010 on Al-Nas TV (Satellite) - Transcript

23 comments:

  1. mixed in with all of the out and out ridiculous bronze age bullshit were some pretty good points.  (imo) kids are caudled too much, and women are objectified like crazy, although that's their choice most of the time.  i love hot chicks as much as anybody else, but it would make me sick to see my sister, girlfriend/wife or daughter getting looked at like a piece of meat at a vegas pool.  i don't know what the answer is to fix that, or even if it needs "fixing". 

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  2. You found *anything* in this a "good point"? Are you friggin' kidding me? This is the most frightening piece of chauvinist bronze-age bullshit I've ever seen, a huge pile of straw-men (naked, I presume) with kerosene-drenched stupidity playing with cultural context that will ignite as soon as it comes in the vicinity of, you know, a decent, well-balanced thought out argument.

    This is pure evil. Watch it well, so you know who the enemy of humanity is. Here's your kerosene and your lighter. 

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  3. this idiot needs to be beaten to death .... imho ....

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  4. Been in Egypt a while ago, remember when I say Egypt is the new Saudi Arabia...

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  5. Islam is for weaklings

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  6. Yeah beat her like a real MAN!
    I feel ashamed of my sex right now.

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  7. This idiot has wandered too far from his cave.  To give "air time" to this sort of tripe demonstrates how modern methods can be used to spread bronze age b.s.

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  8. I couldn't even watch the whole thing. What a medieval pig. I'd like to beat him with a rod. He thinks you ruin your daughter's life if you liberate her from physical abuse? He needs a kick in the head.

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  9. Ugh.  Makes me sick.  Is it all Muslim men who hate women or just their clerics?

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  10. R€LIGION $TINKS OF MONE¥March 23, 2010 at 2:32 PM

    He is either terrified or just hates women

    From what I have read muslim men (arabs) do indeed have issues with the other sex.
    It´s the way that they are raised, living up to the whole macho image and all that.

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  11. Patriarchal religions just can't escape from the idea that family members are chattel. If you own your daughter you can give her away, right? If you own your wife you can smack her around, right? Once they start to see themselves as being of some value other than as chattels the world falls apart.

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  12. This is one of the saddest and scariest things I've ever seen. I do have to agree that women are objectifed way too much in Europe and America (though it's their own choice).

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  13. amazing.. amazing how he/they are able to listen to this kind of shite. Even regardless of content but the whole "anecdote - extrapolate moral - defend actions after the fact with said moral" pattern. Who fucking cares which throwback did what to which other throwback. I think Aesop had the right idea when he used animals to illustrate his teachings, it does away with the whole "who is that guy and why should I care". 
    Inane drivel...

    As for the message, good points:
    - females are objectified too much. True. But it's not like they are forced into this. most aren't. and there's no need too because there are enough out there who actually enjoy being watched. And besides. It's not like we're completely off the hook here: males are objectified too. I agree with BeckSucks (and I agree with the name too): don't know if this needs fixing or if it is the natural order of things. I mean, wanna talk objectified? speak with the male peacock.
    - children, boys AND girls, are wet nursed too much. I agree. They could indeed do with a little more in the sense of rules, obligations, manners and dicipline. The biggest problem I have with bringing up two boys is how other parents let things drop too much. Funny how they always compliment my kids for being so polite and well-behaved, yet fail to see that it's their own over-tolerance that spoils their own kids. 

    So, with that out of the way, the bad parts:
    EVERY-FUCKING-THING ELSE.
    I turned off after two sentences and went for transcript. What the fuck is this idiot thinking? ANd who does he think he is to insult us on that scale? Is this where we can all play the hurt-feelings card and start burning flags and images (can I burn his? off his face that is? with a blowtorch). Because that is probably needed to make them realise we're not weak. God what an idiots. They think they are "real man" because they need to beat their wife into submission? Idiots.
    I get all the sex I need and more, because they WANT to have sex with me. No need to beat them (except when they really want to). Wanna tell me that;s because I'm not a "real man"? If it wasn't so pathetic a notion it would even be funny.

    And the most pathetic thing: them using the fruits of OUR labour to spread their sick drivel. The fruits of mostly godless men. Oh the irony. It's probably lost on them, for shame.

    I'm sorry to say but IMHO these people don't deserve to live in this, humanities future. These pests should be erradicated from public discourse with extreme prejudice. Maybe we should beat them around a little before doing away with them for good. You know, just to show how much man we really are... (pfffft.. the very notion makes me laugh)
    My guess is, if it weren't for all the oil in that region, we would not have this discussion. We would be talking about them the same way we talk about those poor bastards in somalia or nigeria, dieing from hunger, thirst, aids and whatnot.

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  14. don't mess with this guy... he sounds really hard

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  15. Some pretty good points???  You suck worse than Beck!

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  16. Objectify me all you want!  But hit me & I'm buying a Rottweiler and a shotgun!  I'll be the last woman you hit, mfrrr.

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  17. He only gets hard around young boys, I would imagine.

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  18. Our US Xtian fundamentalists want to be in charge in their homes, too.  In truth, they're not much different than this guy.

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  19. I could not watch much beyond the second minute; it sickens me.

    I don't know about all of you, but I am still hung up on the beginning of the story where this teacher thinks the right thing his student should do is not mourn his wife like a real man and husband would do, but completely forget about her and get some pussy as soon as possible.

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  20. easy there fella.  i'm allowed to think there were good points in there, even though as a whole the message is obviously founded in complete poison.  kids today have it too easy.   all i'm sayin.  i agree this moron should be stored in a volcano. 

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  21. good gravy thank you - you'd think i'd kicked a baby in the head for saying that earlier.

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  22. alexandra i mean

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  23. What is memri-TV? They always seem to bring out these clips?

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